From wwwwolf@iki.fi Sat Jul 4 12:32:54 1998 Path: news.eunet.fi!wwwwolf From: wwwwolf@iki.fi (Urpo Lankinen) Newsgroups: rec.games.roguelike.nethack Subject: [RGRNCA] Re: ---ICQ TOOLZ--- Date: 3 Jul 1998 13:47:35 GMT Organization: WWWWolf's den Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wwwwolf.pp.fi X-FurryCode: FCWm3adm A+C-DH+M+PR+T++W-ZSm RLU a19cl+++d-ef+h*i++p-sm X-YiffCode: Yiff1.0Mhet P-- Z-- T! S+ V+ H(wolf,*)+ aIr X-RGRNCA-Activity: You seek me? I HUNT YOU! X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.3 UNIX) ::WWWWolf is giving yet another presentation on off-topic subjects in RGRNCA. This time, it's about security holes in ICQ. When this story begins, the presentation is about to end.:: ...and thus, we see that ICQ might be cool, but the underlying protocol makes it very insecure and not good for mission-critical applications. Avoid it like plague. [Suddently the door opens, and an obvious Cr3T1n steps in. Performer's Corner is occupied, so he shouts from the bottom of his lungs...] On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 04:32:06 GMT, Balbir Singh wrote: >NEED ANY ICQ WAR TOOLZ? GO TO http://wartoolz.home.ml.org >we have all the icq nukers, flooders, password stealers, protection etc.. ::WWWWolf interrupts him.:: Ah, here we see a shining example of what the stupid, error-prone ICQ protocol has lead us to. But fear not. In today's Internet, people *do* know you are a dog. (This leads to obvious problems - for example, I'm a wolf, not a dog.) As you can see, the Hackers of the Darker Side seem to do things that flood ::takes a bucket of water and empties it by soaking the d00d throughoutly:: the recipient. It's possible. And then it is possible to nuke ::gives the d00d a black ball with sputtering fuse. Just when the d00d realizes what he's holding, it explodes, and when the smoke vanishes, we see a blackened d00d.:: and steal passwords ::reaches for d00d's pocket and takes a piece of paper from there:: "Username: jay, password: supergEnIus12345"... But trust me, this d00d is lying. There is no such thing as protection... ::reaches for pockets...:: Ah, I had the protection. Cool. Anyway, there is no such thing as protection from d00dels in ICQ. So, the best bet is to stop using ICQ until Mirabilis gets these blatatant bugs fixed, or place your bets to some openly developed alternatives, such as KIT. And oh, dear d00d, thanks for helping me. ::WWWWolf drags the d00d to the verandah, gets a good grip from d00d's throat and peers deep into the eyes:: You got away this easy this time. But hey, it may be that your ISP will be hounding you like no tomorrow soon... You see, an abuse report is on its way. They might not like it that you abuse their machines that badly. Hey ho, and now get lost. Don't show your ugly face here again. ::Kicks the d00d down the stairs.:: - Signed, WWWWolf of rec.games.roguelike.nethack CR3T1NZ advisory (Mobile Unit), Vestrum Excrucibo (Our battlecry: "Wrong Newsgroup, pal!") -- WWWWolf (known to some as Urpo Lankinen), just another lupine technomancer ICQ:4291042 -==(RGRNCA)==-